Williams, Ceinwen

Birth Name Williams, Ceinwen
Married Name Arscott, Ceinwen 1 2
Gramps ID I0289
Gender female
Age at Death 79 years, 6 months, 29 days

Events

Event Date Place Description Sources
Birth 1898-12-08 11 Bethesda Street, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, UK   1 3
Residence 1901-03-31 11 Bethesda Street, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, UK   4
Residence 1911-04-02 18 John Street, Georgetown, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, UK   5
Residence 1917-03-06 18 John Street, Georgetown, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, UK   1
Emigration 1925-04-18   Arrived at Montreal 6
Event Note

Ceinwen Arscott, Margaret Ann Arscott and Sarah Arscott left Liverpool on board the SS Montcalm on 18 April 1925, and arrived at "Quebec and montreal" 26 April 1925. They travelled 3rd class. They were planning to meet Ceinwen's husband at "The Mines, Anyox, British Columbia". {Actually it says Anyoz.]

Their UK contact was Ceinwen's sister, Mrs. Evans, 42, Ovatmorlais [which means Pontmorlais], Merthyr. Ceinwen was carrying £20.

They planned to reside permanantly in Canada.

Immigration 1928-07-14   Arrived from Montreal 7
Event Note

Name: Ceinwen Arscott
Birth Date: abt 1899
Age: 29
Port of Departure: Montrã©AL, Quã©Bec, Canada
Arrival Date: 14 Jul 1928
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Belfast, Greenock
Ship Name: Andania
Search Ship Database: View the 'Andania' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Cunard Line
Official Number: 145934

Ceinwen was listed as "not accompanied by husband or wife". She was with Margaret Arscott, aged 9, and Sarah Arscott, aged 5. They were headed for (perhaps) Camarthen Stores, 42, Pontmorelais [sic], Merthyr. They listed their future permanent residence as "other parts of the British Empire", perhaps back to Canada. Ceinwen listed herself as "Housewife" and British, along with her children. They travelled in "class T/T/C", whatever that was. Aha! On an unrelated passenger list, I see someone listed as travelling "Tourist Third Cabin". Here's a forum post:

"Olympic had 'tourist third cabin' introduced in 1925, to cater for the finest third class or less attractive second class accommodation; travellers paid more than a standard third class fare and a little less than a second class fare. From what I remember, it wasn't really a bona fide separate class, just a different set of rates. "

Both the Canadian emigration records for Ceinwen say that Her sister, Myfanwy Evans, lived at 42, Pontmorlais. So Myfanwy was already married by April 1925.

Residence 1929-08-22 124 High Street, Dowlais   8
Sent flowers 1930-02-15   Funeral of Margaret Williams 9
Emigration     Missed the boat! 10
Emigration 1930-05-23   Arrived at Quebec 11
Event Note

Ceinwen, Margaret and Sarah Arscott sailed abord the SS Antonia from Liverpool on 23 May 1930 and arrived Quebec 1 june 1930. They travelled 3rd class.

They were planning to meet Ceinwen's husband, Mr James Arscott, at The Mine, Anyox, British Columbia. He paid for the tickets.

THeir UK contact was ceinwen's sister, Myfanwy Evans, at 42, Pontmorlais, Merthyr. [Merhtyr]. Ceinwen had $95 on her.

They planned to reside permanently in Canada.

Residence 1932-10-05 Anyox, British Columbia, Canada   2
Death 1978-07-06 Vancouver   12

Parents

Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father Williams, Thomas Thomas [I0269]1868-12-061924-03-05
Mother Baker, Sarah [I0326]between 1872-04-01 and 1873-03-31before 1924-03-05
         Williams, Ceinwen [I0289] 1898-12-08 1978-07-06
    Sister     Williams, Myfanwy [I0297] between 1899-12-00 and 1900-03-00
    Sister     Williams, Elizabeth Mary [I0379] between 1903-04-01 and 1904-03-31
    Brother     Williams, William Frederick [I0294] between 1909-09-01 and 1909-12-31
    Sister     Williams, Margaret [I0295]

Families

    Family of Arscott, James and Williams, Ceinwen [F0097]
Married Husband Arscott, James [I0290] ( * between 1895-12-00 and 1896-03-00 + 1976-05-01 )
   
Event Date Place Description Sources
Marriage 1917-03-06 Monk Street, Aberdare   1
Event Note

Witnesses at the wedding were Bronwen Davies and David Lewis Lloyd. Both Ceinwen and James signed their names. They were married in the Baptist tradition, by certificate. The original certificate gave James's name as William James Arscott, aged 21. A note by the registrar made on 11 June 1918 changes his name to James aged 20 at marriage. James and Ceinwen were present then, so canot have been in Canada then!

  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
Arscott, Margaret Ann [I0292]between 1916-12-00 and 1917-03-00
Arscott, Sarah [I0293]between 1921-12-00 and 1922-03-00

Pedigree

  1. Williams, Thomas Thomas [I0269]
    1. Baker, Sarah [I0326]
      1. Williams, Ceinwen
        1. Arscott, James [I0290]
          1. Arscott, Margaret Ann [I0292]
          2. Arscott, Sarah [I0293]
      2. Williams, Myfanwy [I0297]
      3. Williams, Elizabeth Mary [I0379]
      4. Williams, William Frederick [I0294]
      5. Williams, Margaret [I0295]

Ancestors

Source References

  1. Ceinwen Williams Marriage certificate [S0208]
  2. JTW Solicitor's letter 1932 [S0179]
  3. Ceinwen Williams birth certificate [S0240]
  4. Ceinwen Williams 1901 census [S0242]
  5. Ceinwen Williams 1911 census [S0394]
  6. Ceinwen Arscott to Canada 1925 [S0398]
  7. 1928 Ceinwen Arscott immigration [S0209]
  8. James Arscott 1929 to Canada [S0401]
  9. Margaret Thomas Funeral report [S0645]
  10. Ceinwen Williams missed boat [S0400]
  11. Ceinwen Arscott 23 May 1930 emigration [S0397]
  12. Ceinwen Arscott death registration [S0399]